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The following program is produced

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by Community Video Services
of Durham Technical Institute.

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Good evening.

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I'm Cynthia Watts and welcome
to the Arts in Durham.

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As you can tell, I'm not
sitting in my usual setting.

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I'm on location this evening.

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I'm at John Page's Pottery
Gallery on Chapel Hill Road.

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We're going to take a look
at the world of clay,

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the world of porcelain, 

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and the life of a potter,
and a local artist—

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John Page.

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I want to welcome you
back to the Arts in Durham

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and I want to talk about
the word clay for a second.

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Clay is an expressive
medium and they say

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that potters have the tendency to

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use it to its highest versatility.

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The word pottery?

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Well, it started over
seven thousand years ago

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by some ancient Romans.

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And tonight we're going to be
talking with a local potter,

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John Page, who is a
North Carolinian,

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who taught at the
Durham Arts Council,

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and who is now struggling
to be a great potter.

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I want to welcome John Page
to the Arts in Durham.

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- [Cynthia] I want to first talk
about your artistic abilities

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and when did you get the first inkling
that you wanted to be an artist?

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Now, that goes back a long, long
time once I think about it.

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When I was a kid,
I drew all the time.

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I think I was

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more interested in 

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drawing and painting
and that kind of thing,

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and for some reason or another,

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I've always been very interested in that.

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And then when I went off to college,
I wanted to go to an art school,

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an accredited art school, or
one that basically dealt with art.

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And so I went to East Carolina
and that's where I got interested in

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all that I'm interested in.

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- [Cynthia] I know when
we talked earlier that


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John Page was
going to be a painter

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at first and then John decided
he was going to be a potter.

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How did that change
happen in your life?

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Well,

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I loved painting very much.

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It's part of me

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and I think a lot of my
pottery is influenced by

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painting.

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I use the surface as


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a drawing
surface sometimes

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with colors and glazes
and things like that.

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But you have to
take a series of courses.

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You have take drawing
and figure drawing and 

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pottery and sculpture
and everything.

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So you get a good rounded idea 

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of all the different
aspects of art or

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craft or whatever.

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I took pottery and all the sudden

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it just stuck my hand
in and it just kept

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pulling me down and I
just really enjoyed it.

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The community of

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people working together,
firing kilns together,

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I like that.
I like that a lot—

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working with other people

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and working by yourself too.

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Working in things that

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you yourself are interested in.

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I like that.

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So, pottery became my love.

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- [Cynthia] How does your life 

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differ as a potter's
from, say, a painter's life?

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What is the difference in your lives?

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Well, a potter
works on a schedule

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of doing so many
different kinds of

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items or works or whatever.

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And then letting them dry and trimming

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them and firing them
the first time and then 

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glazing them and firing them again.

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So you're on a schedule
of two or three

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weeks depending on how
many times you fire.

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- [John] I'm one of
those people that—

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pottery's nice because
you take a lump of clay and

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all the sudden you have

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made something very quick

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where painting is a
much slower process.

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I'm one of those people
that instant gratification.

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I like to see

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the thing that I have made
in a very short period of time

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even though it changes

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drastically by the time
I have a final product.

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I like that a lot.

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John, I know you
have not always

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been located on Chapel
Hill Road in such big

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spacious space to work
in and a nice gallery

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and nice studio in the rear.

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Where was John Page located

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before he moved to
Chapel Hill Road?

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Well, I rented a
room in a house

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and there was a
basement in the house

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and that was my studio.

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It was a little ten by twelve room

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that I tried to make
my living out of—well I did

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make my living out of

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 for three years,
just about three years.

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- [Cynthia] Are you pleased with
your move to Chapel Hill Road?

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Oh yeah, I like it a lot.

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I love the building.

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- [Cynthia] How has it
changed your life,

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this move from the small ten by ten,

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or ten by twelve room,

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 to now a spacious
studio and a spacious gallery?

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What has this done
for you artistically?

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Well, for one thing,

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it's made things easier
for me to work.

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Having room to move around in

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that's very important to me.

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The ability or wanting to
sell my own work.

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I like the fact that other
galleries sell my work also

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but I wanted to meet the
people that bought my work

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and get them to know me
and me to know them and

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to develop a rapport with
the people that buy my things.

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I think that's as important to me,

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well, that's very important to me.

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The work itself is the most important.

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I really like having
a gallery in the front

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and then having all the space
in the back to work around in.

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- [Cynthia] Is this a dream
come true for John Page?

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Part of it.

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It's part of a progression.

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I see

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a change every—


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very much like my work,

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my work changes every
week it seems like.

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Sometimes that's good,
sometimes it's not.

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This is a step 

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into what I finally want.

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- [Cynthia] And what
do you finally want?

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- [John] I'd like to have a
studio situation where

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I had plenty of time to work.

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I didn't have to worry
about selling the pieces.

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Having someone else sell them

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but still having a rapport with
the people that buy my work.

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Having a studio house kind of thing

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out in the country someplace.

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Not back to nature kind of thing,

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but a

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more harmonious living situation,
working situation where

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I'm not interrupted,

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I can work on the things
that I'm really interested in.

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The production things I make are,

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right now, are just keeping
the shop and things going.

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But I enjoy making more
artistic or more fun things

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and right now I don't
have the time to do that

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and that's what I'd like to have.

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- [Cynthia] If you had
to do it all over again,

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would you be a potter?

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You asked me that
the other day, I know.

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- [Cynthia] Yeah.

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I've been thinking about that.

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I don't know.

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Yes, I think I would.

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It's very much me.
It suits my lifestyle.

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It's fun. It's a whole lot of fun.

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People all the time say, "Oh,
you have so much fun!"

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But they also don't realize

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 there's a lot of work in that, too.

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Yeah, I think I'd be a potter.

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- [Cynthia] OK, taking that,
you would do it over again—

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what would you change?

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What would you do different
this time around?

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Be born rich. [laughs]

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So that I could do what I
want to when I want to.

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No I don't think I'd
want to change anything.

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- [John] I don't regret anything 

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that has gone on to get
where I am now

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and 

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I'm very pleased.

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- [Cynthia] I have been doing
some research on pottery

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and potters and find
out that potters work

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very, very rigid schedules.

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Their work is also physical.

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What about your rigid schedules?

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Do you throw two days a week, 

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tool two days a week,
glaze one day a week?

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How do you work on such
a rigid schedule?

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The gallery opens at 10:30,

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though I'm usually in here
earlier in the morning

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trimming pots or doing
something like that.

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I try to throw five days a week.

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The gallery's open five days a week

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and I work when
the gallery is open.

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And then the other
two days I spend

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loading kilns and firing those
so that I fire a kiln a week,

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usually, a glaze kiln a week.

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So every week I have a new

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outpouring of work.

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John, I want to ask you
about repeated task.

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I know you do a lot
of production work,

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a lot of production
pieces and I know a lot

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of time and energy
goes into doing 

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mass production work.

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Does this get to be a bore 

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after a period of months or years?

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- [John] Sometimes, yes.

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When you get an order from
another gallery or another shop

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for a hundred coffee mugs.

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I sit down and I throw a
hundred coffee mugs in an hour.

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That's not putting handles
and glazing and things like that.

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But there's a certain
comfort and security

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in sitting down and
doing the same thing

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over and over again

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because you know it's
going to turn out that way.

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I enjoy that secure feeling
that I get when I'm sitting down

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and

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I enjoy that.

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I like it and

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sometimes it's boring, but I'd
say most of the time it's

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time to do other things
while you're working,

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thinking.

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- [Cynthia] Do you feel that
your choice of objects

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has contributed to
your love of your work 

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and your growing success?

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You have to think of those things
also in terms of economics.

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Certain things that I do make

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I make for an economic reason 

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so that I can make the
things I really enjoy making.

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Some of the
Japanese styled pieces—

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they are pieces that I enjoy doing,

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and at first I didn't think they would

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 be pieces that people would enjoy,

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but people have picked up
on these more artistic pieces.

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And for a while they
were doing as well as

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coffee mugs and
crafts and the other

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everyday things that I make.

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The things that I make

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I think are a little bit different
from what other people do.

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So I think maybe

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that'll help me
stay above what I need to.

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I don't know.

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- [Cynthia] Do you feel that the
process of becoming a potter

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has formed your personality

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or was it your work that enabled you

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to form your personality?

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I'm much easier going
now that I'm a potter

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or since I got
interested in the pottery.

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Much more patient.

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You have to wait two or
three weeks for something.

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Though I still

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like to see something fast,

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I think in two weeks to have
a finished product is pretty fast.

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I'm much happier.

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I think I'm pretty happy.

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There's a certain amount
of occupational therapy

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in pottery. 

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It gives you time to think.

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You're your own boss. 

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If you don't work,
you don't make a living.

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There's a certain security

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in that in knowing that you
have to rely on yourself a lot.

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- [Cynthia] So would you say
that your general attitude 

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towards life today

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your work has contributed
mostly towards that attitude?

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Yeah, I think so

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in some respects.

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My work is the most important
thing to me right now.

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So my work has to change
me in some ways, I think.

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It's started finally
to make me more independent.

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Able to do the things that I
enjoy doing things like that.

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It's funny, I can't be
gone from the wheel

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for more than two weeks.

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All of the sudden I

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I've got to go back to the wheel.

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It's like I've got to go back
to therapy or something.

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You have to go back
and go back to work.

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It's part of me.

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Has your work as a potter given you

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great inner strength
to deal with frustrations

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and disappointments
and grievances in everyday life?

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Yes.

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In some ways, yes.

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Like I was talking about
the occupational therapy,

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the time to be able to sit down

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and not be
bothered by anyone and

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to be making something,
especially a production item.

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I can sit and I can work things out.

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I get ideas.

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Some production things
are very mechanical.

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It's like

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just playing

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a range of notes on the
piano or something.

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 it's very mechanical,

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you do it methodically
without really thinking about it.

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So that extra time I'm
able work things out.

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Even sometimes it

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doesn't solve all those problems,

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but it does help.
It certainly help sometimes.

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- [Cynthia] Let's talk a little bit
about your work now.

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What methods and materials do
you basically use in your work?

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Well, I use a stone or clay body,

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which is basically
what most potters use.

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It's a very earthy, coarse kind of clay

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and it's very good for cooking

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and things like that.

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- [John] My love is porcelain.

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I just love porcelain.

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It's a clay body.

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It's very white and very pure.

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It has no impurities in it,

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iron spots or things like that.

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I like the whiteness in terms of

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having a surface to decorate.

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I like to decorate surfaces a lot.

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As a matter of fact, that's what I'm


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working in mostly now is porcelain.

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- [Cynthia] Does your work have
a specific characteristic?

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Well.

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It does change a lot,

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but I think there's a certain
feel about my work—

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especially the porcelain pieces. 

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Someone the other
day mentioned to me,

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"John, I'm glad you're
doing porcelain again, 

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because it's your medium.

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It's what you work best in."

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The subtle colors, the things like that.

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I think in terms of the porcelain—

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of course, my
porcelain pieces are very

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influenced by Chinese works

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which are mostly porcelain pieces. 

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And I,

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I like that influence.

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It's a very elegant kind of thing.


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- [Cynthia] Right off the
top of your head

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how much work do
you produce a year?

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Oh.

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It may seem silly

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to think of it in
terms of money, but

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I can't say in terms of pieces cause

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I could make

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a hundred thousand coffee
mugs or something like that.

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Not that many but.

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And that would be
all I would make.

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But I would say

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thirty-five thousand dollars
worth of pottery a year.

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Forty thousand,
depending on if I'm really

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geared up,

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if I'm really into making
pottery at that time.

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- [Cynthia] When we talked earlier

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you said some of your
pieces had crossed the waters.

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Tell me where some
of your pieces are.

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Oh, people have come
to the shop here

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and have bought pieces.

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A lady came in a
few weeks ago and was

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going to a wedding in Leone, France

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and she said, "Oh, I just
have to take a piece 

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of North Carolina pottery."

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And she said,
"Well, I really like yours

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so I'm going to buy a
piece of yours to take

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to the wedding as a gift."

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I've got pieces 

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all over the United States now.

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There was a gallery in Washington

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that carries my work

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and they are on Embassy Row.

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And she said that constantly 

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people from the embassies
were coming into her shop,

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buying my work, and sending it to

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England and other places.

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So I don't know where it all is.

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It's out there someplace.

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- [Cynthia] It must be a
fantastic feeling to know that

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you have stretched the globe.

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Well.

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It's fun to think that people
are enjoying using

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something that is

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a part of North Carolina, for one thing,

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the pottery tradition.

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I like the idea that

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people are using something,

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a functional piece. I like that.

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Hopefully aesthetically
pleasing too to them.

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- [Cynthia] I want to talk
about your interest in 

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Japanese and Chinese

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traditional pottery,

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but I want to move
over to the cabinet

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 so that we can talk about
some of your favorite pieces.

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- [Cynthia] OK?
OK.

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- [Cynthia] John, I want to now
talk to you about some

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of your favorite pieces,

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something that's very,
very dear to you.

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And I understand that it's
sitting here in this cabinet 

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so pull it out and
let the audience see

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what's very, very close to you

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and explain to me
why it's dear to you.

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Well,

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I did a pair of these jars.

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They're kind of based on melon jars,
Chinese pieces.

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Though these are
pieces that I have made 

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and I have a pair of these.

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This glaze was supposed to have

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come out a certain color 

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and it didn't turn out the
color it was supposed to.

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And at first I was a little disappointed.

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And then I thought,

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"No, I think I like
them better like this

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cause I'll never be able
to get this glaze again."

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That's one of the
nice things about pottery.

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Sometimes the kiln
will do something really special.

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And I consider this
a very special piece.

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- [Cynthia] It's beautiful.
- [John] There have a pair of these

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and very pleased with that.

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- [Cynthia] I know also that
you have a great interest

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in Japanese folk pottery
and also Chinese porcelain.

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Why those two interests?

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What intrigued you about
the Japanese and the Chinese work?

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- [John] Well, there's
such a long tradition

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of pottery in China and Japan

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 and the folk potteries 

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are a very big thing in Japan.

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These are some of the things
that interest me a lot.

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The fact that there is a
certain period of time.

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That

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so much pottery was
made because it was

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the only material
that you could make 

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usable vessels out of.

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Just the education of showing people


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Chinese pieces that are very old

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and then showing them

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contemporary pieces
and the comparison

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and contrast between those.

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So this is like an education?

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Yeah, it's an education.

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Also,

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some of these pieces are
a thousand years old.

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There's Song Dynasty pieces,

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early Song Dynasty,


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Ming, Early Ming Dynasty
pieces, late Ming.

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Yun

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Celadon Pieces, Northern Celadon,
Southern Celadon.

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 All these make
up a really broad

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spectrum of pottery,
especially in China.

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It's such a large country 

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and there's such a good
traditional of it there.

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Would you take that piece out 

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and let's show it to the
audience, please? 

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That one's beautiful.

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This is a fairly late piece.

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It's a New Year's jar.

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The symbol on the front
being the sign of happiness.

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These were made by
the thousands, I'm sure, 

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hundreds of thousands

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three or four hundred years ago.

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This piece in particular,

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what they did is they filled it full of

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goodies, some type of special gift—

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prepared foods or things like that—
and gave these to people

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as presents.

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This was just the container
and the container was as

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beautiful and as wonderful,
I think, as what was in it.

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And I like that a lot.

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I like that idea.

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And now we are
going to go in the back

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to John's studio and watch
him actually at work.

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Part of the process of throwing a pot is

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having the clay in a nice ball.

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This is a potter's wheel.

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And it's a kick wheel,

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So I have to get it going 

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by kicking it.

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Put the clay in the center of the wheel.

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And part of the process
is to center the clay

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so that all parts are
moving together so you can

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bring up the form and it
won't wobble over to one side.

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And if they get the
wheel going good fast,

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add some water.

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[music]

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And this is called centering.

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[music]

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Like that.

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And this is porcelain.

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This is what I'm
working in right now

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and have been for
the past few weeks.

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We have to open the clay up.

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[music]

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And then,

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making sure it's nice and wet 

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so you don't have any friction,

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you just simply bring it up.

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[music]

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I'm going to throw just
a very simple little bowl,

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give you the idea of how
clay can open up and

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take form into into something.

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[music]

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And there you have a bowl.

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And from this state

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the piece would dry some.

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It would become leather hard
and you would trim it,

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put on the handles if it was
a teapot or something like that.

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Like these tea pots here, 

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they're made of three
or four different pieces.

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The body of the pot,
the lid, the spout,

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the handles, the little top lid.

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And each of those pieces are put
together to make a teapot.

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These are some of the
things that I've been working on

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in the past few weeks—

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tea pots, bowls,

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vases.

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Hopefully these will be out soon.

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[music]

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Pottery, a direct means
of visual expression.

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I want to thank you John Page

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for joining me this evening
on the Arts in Durham.

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It's been a pleasure.

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I want to ask you to
support our local artists.

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I want to thank you
for joining me this evening

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and I invite you to
join me next week.

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Have a great night.

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