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Two separate interviews. The first is more of a conversation between Hubert Samuel Robinson and Frank Porter Graham. Robinson, a Black man, worked for Graham, a white man, for many years as a driver, butler, and general assistant while Graham was president of the University of North Carolina. Topics covered include the admission of a Japanese student (Fukasato) fleeing his country, student loan drives during the Great Depression, the Public Works Administration buildings on campus, their travels around the state, and other staff members including Alice and young staff members and students. The interview also covers an anecdote about the famous Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" broadcast. The second interview begins at 20:56 and features William B. "Bill" Aycock, who was University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Chancellor at the time, interviewing Frank Porter Graham. This interview covers Graham's service as a good officer for the United Nations. Graham talks about the distinction between various UN roles, followed by an extended discussion of his role as a mediator in the India-Pakistan dispute from the 1950s and 1960s. Graham gives an overview of the social and political history between the two countries and then specficially addresses the stalemate over Kashmir. The lines on the picture are due to scratches on the tape. After 00:49:00, the content appears to be images of parking areas and cars in Chapel Hill but it is upside down. There is also loud buzzing.

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